Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Let's do a thing.":Okay.
Sizism is all about controlling our bodies, our presentation to the world. You would have to perfectly match society's expectations and you'd probably STILL be blamed. Sizism is most definitely intersectional. The ways in which it affects people is varied and this should be respected.
My disability has been blamed on my thinness by doctors. People (including medical staff) have told me I'm anorexic and threatened to institutionalize me. I've been hounded by doctors to "exercise and eat right." When doctors messed up an operation and almost killed me, they blamed my pain afterwards on lack of exercise and refused to treat me for a week, during which I almost died. I had to receive emergency surgery, which I only got because a different doctor was on call in the ER that night.
In addition to doing some of the things above, they refused to take me to the hospital on a regular basis because the results of my disability were caused by "laziness."
It is unknown if this was just ableism or not, but every school I've ever been to has refused to allow me days off or to skip PE even with a doctor's note.
"REAL women have curves." Implying that skinny ones aren't real women.
"Nothing feels as good as skinny tastes." A reverse of a popular quote (replace feels and tastes). The image was of a fat person EATING a skinny one.
Please, stop invalidating very real problems. Let's discuss how sizism affects both sides, and how it's intersectional and again, you could be perfect and still get blamed. Otherwise, we're playing right into the kyriarchy's hands.
Let me address this point by point.
First of all nowhere did I say that one experience of sizeism is less than any other.
From my response to their comment:
The topic is, a clarification about the differences between interpersonal body shaming and institutional body shaming.Here we go, let us have some intersectionality for a minute.
What I was discussing was not the day to day or life to life personal experiences of Thin People as individuals.
That means, I wasn't talking about your experience perambulating around in an apparently from how you worded things here, very thin body.
Let's get a few other things straight again.
As I said then, and I will say again.
Body Shaming is bad.
People being jerks to you or shaming you for your body and only on the basis of how your body appears is bullshit, it sucks and people should stop doing that.Again quoting myself directly:
People being jerks to you or shaming you for your body and only on the basis of how your body appears is bullshit, it sucks and people should stop doing that.One more time for the cheap seats:
People being jerks to you or shaming you for your body and only on the basis of how your body appears is bullshit, it sucks and people should stop doing that.Let me put it another way:
Having people mistreat you because of how your body is shaped, how much you weigh etc is bad for everyone.
In case it wasn't abundantly clear from my frequent use of the word fat, and all of the fat things located hereabouts, let's be clear.
This person returned with this:
This is my response:
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Let's do a thing.":
I'm sorry, how is doctors refusing me treatment not institutional? How is the constant hate that flows from so called "body-positive" movements interpersonal?
This is why I never try to talk to people like you. You don't care how many people stand up and say, "Here's how I was discriminated against." You just care that you're the ~super special oppressed ones~ and everyone else's problems are individual, unconnected incidents, trufax!
Again you missed the point entirely and you're being incredibly disrespectful in my space.Okay.
Again where did I invalidate your treatment personally? Where did I ever say that nothing bad ever happens to thin people?
Where did I say that sT has never had any institutional problems regarding their body ever?
In my explanation of the differences between things on a micro personal (as in your personal life) level, where did I do any of these things?
I don't know if you're trolling or as I mentioned in this entry taking this example/explanation personally but you are really not understanding what I am doing here.
I actually do care which is why I made the effort to break down some differences in the personal and the political. If you can't understand that, as I said in my previous comment, I am not the droids you are looking for. If my level of intersectionality and my use of both the personal and political is beyond you, bye.
As happens often here is the thing sT.
In this space, in what I do here there I do not try and talk about experiences I have not had. On both a personal and political level I think that is a bad plan.
Let me be clear again.
That post was not about the personal private life of a very thin person in ill health or yes, being discriminated against.
It was about making clear to some people (I imagine like yourself) what I am talking about when I talk about institutionalized discrimination versus personal discrimination.
Do you notice how I did not say that one is more important than the other?
Nor did I say that one means more than the other.
They are intersected but not the same.
Need that again?
Oppression don't happen in a vacuum, nor are they only personal nor are they strictly institutional. These things intersect.
One of the things I do here (I'm assuming you aren't a regular reader) is that because I am aware that my readership is fairly diverse in terms of where they are in in understanding body issues, I like to put things in a context that other people who are not fat lil ole me, might understand.
I'm actually very good at it.
Thus, I used the device of using the kind of institutional fat bias I and lots of other fat folks talk about, and put a thin person in that place. A person who is not fat may well understand on a deeper level if I put it in terms that match their own personal experience.
Now again, let me reiterate to you personally.
That explanation was not about you personally sT whomever you are.
It is awful that you've experienced discrimination, I don't know you, I don't know your story thus I was not discussing it as an issue of discrimination experienced by you.
Again, it was not about you personally.
It was about, giving a broader understanding to people who have done things like:
- Asked me to explain what is different about someone calling me a fat bitch and going untreated for an ear infection because I am fat.
- Asked me personally what kind of institutional things I believe are rooted in fat bias, have done.
- I have new readers who are not fat people and are new to any kind of body acceptance and I want them to be up to speed on the jargon and situations I talk about.
- This is a Fat Persons Blog. Therefor, the Fat Blogger named Shannon does not speak from experiences she does not have.
- Discrimination for whatever reason.
- People are assholes to us on the street.
- Etc etc.
This is an issue where a thin persons body politic issues diverge from those of a fat person.